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should I buy a new gps or just get an eobr

my ole garim c330 is to old to get updates i am with landstar and they got the qualcom 50?? we all know ebor's are going to be law would it be better in the long run to just get the eobr or go buy a truck spefic gps

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if you never stretch the truth the qualcom will work well for you especially that it provides you with a wifi internet and as long as you volunteer for one ls will pay for the installation. all positives i guess?

there's a new rand mcnally 760gps which also doubles as an eobr but it is not landstar approved. i guess it's up to you to decide how long your leash is going to be ;) as for eobrs becoming mandatory...they probably will but it's hard to say when and what the final device feature will be. i'll hang out and wait to see.

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I tested the Rand McNally TND760 EOBR for United / Mayflower. It's an excellent unit. Lots of great features and integrated with United / Mayflower's log system very well. The unit is pricey, $700 at T/A & Petro, but it's a great GPS and EOBR!

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The navigation in Landstar's EOBR is Co Pilot Truck. It has some limitations. For example, you can't do anything with it while the truck is in motion, not even a quick stop. The routing on it isn't bad. As far as it having internet, you have to get the upgraded model and then it will only work if you have a WiFi connection. I would get a stand alone GPS.

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I have the Garmin Dezl760, it does logs as well, likely not compatible with Landstars system but it's a great GPS, tracks IFTA related data and is considerably less expensive than the Rand McNally however the Rand McNally is an actual EOBR that connects to the trucks ECM from what I was reading since it allows for critical event reporting like hard braking, stability control, etc.

The truck GPS is more of a routing/planning tool for me than it is a logging tool. If it were me and LS is installing the MCP50 for free than I think I'd go with both.

Jerzy is right, while it's highly likely it will become law to have an EOBR on the truck, it's currently not nor is it likely it'll be any time soon. I think it'd be safe to say there will be a list of approved EOBRs and it's highly likely the qualcomm units will be there, since they're already being accepted by DOT now.

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Stay with Garmin. The Garmin dezl 760 is fully 395.15 compliant (i.e. full, legal EOBR) and it connects to your truck's ECM through Geotab. It is a lot simpler to install than Rand McNally and gives you hard braking, zones, seat belts and a lot more.

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How much is the Geotab, that's interesting information. It would then depend on whether or not his carrier accepts the Geotab Garmin combination. From my understanding this is not something LS is doing, I believe the only approved device they allow is a Qualcomm, which is within the carrier's right to do so.

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Just had our new entrant visit from DOT officer and he said don't get tricked into buying any EOBR as he does not think it will ever become law as it is invasion of privacy etc or something and if it does someday it is a long long way out.

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I like EOBR so I'm not tricked into anything. Invasion of privacy is a horrible defense against the EOBR, we are a commercial vehicle. Airplanes have EOBR for safety reasons, stands to reason they could make it mandatory for us. I do think he's right however, it's a while out. I'm not aware of any rules, proposed or otherwise, that will require it in all trucks.

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yeah well the airline Pilot does not own the plane and make all the decisions for that business nor do a pre trip inspection of the entire airplane nor can that aircraft pull over for emergencies. There is no reason why I cannot nor others put on paper our logs and sign our name and that not be acceptable. It is our own run business. The government likes people like you - they will eventually sneak into your bedroom and tell you what to do there too and you never even saw it coming. All opinions and everyone should realize that as well.

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I used the GPS built into the EOBR when I was leased to Schneider and I thought it was horrible. You cannot add waypoints or anything. You just have to accept the routing it gives and that's it.

I also personally do not like the truck specific GPS units. It sounds like a good idea, but I just don't care for their limitations. It's almost as though they tried to cram too much into the devices so instead of doing one thing good (routing), it does several things badly. Obviously, this is just my opinion and you know how that old saying goes.

I just use a TomTom 2535 and I absolutely love it. It is TomToms top of the line (when I bought it) and about half the price of the truck specific units. It is so easy to add custom POI's to it and I have added a ton of them. I added all of my company's terminals and drop yards, all of our regular customers, all of the weigh stations, and rest areas, plus many more. You can't do that with the EOBR units.

The regular GPS units, as you probably already know, will work great as long as you remember that they are only a tool and are not a set-it-and-forget-it type of device. Common sense plays a major role in your routing. I ALWAYS use the company/customer directions and set my GPS unit up with waypoints to follow them. I have never ever had a problem with bridges, truck routing, or anything else using my GPS unit like this.

So, in short, if you are wanting a good GPS unit, get a regular GPS unit instead of the EOBR or truck specific units. Again, this is just my opinion, which you were asking for and I hope this helps some.

Take care, be safe, and good luck in your decision.

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Not sure about the MCP50 that LS is using, but the Navigo setup in the MCP200 I am using leaves a lot to be desired some days. I am beginning to think it is like a blind squirrel. Even a blind squirrel with find a nut once in a while. The Navigo setup, after over 2 years in my truck, still cannot locate my house! And when I leave the house heading west, it still wants me to turn right on 51st ave. Problem, that section of road it wants me to turn on is nothing more than a trail in to a cornfield along a fence row, and has been that way for almost two decades. It has tried to route me down a road in NE Ohio that had a 12' bridge on it. Most times, I get better routing from the google maps on my iphone.

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