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Anybody buying lots of FUEL in Illinois?

If you do, have you lost MPG's ? Is it worth losing 2 mpg to buy fuel in Illinois? I may only buy 50 or less gal in future because of the mandated B11-20% stuff they are selling.

I been filling at LOVE"s in Illinois, seems they are using Bio-Mass , and the Bio-soy is better stuff is what I'm hearing.

I'm in NE at TA, have checked fuel here, they are straight #2 diesel , no bio

Topping off in morning, I will know soon how it does.

For what is worth, fueling here in NE, on fuel bought in MI, got 9.8 mpg

again, then today, fueling in WY, at Petro, got 9.73 in this head/cross wind

Headed to CA, will fuel again in NV

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when i buy in illinios i try to buy from petro or ta, pilot is biomass ,with thiers i lose mpg.

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If it a state mandate, how does Petro and T/A not have it, but Pilot does?

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petro uses soy and pilot uses biomass thats the difference, the soy blend is better

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you will lose energy by using biodiesel.it might be better for your engine,but if it cost you in fuel mileage,it's not worth it.i will test myself the problem is the lobby in the midwest(farmers) is huge

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I don't run east anymore unless I want to go somewhere. I went to the truck show in Louisville and on my way back home I fueled in IL. I noticed they had the bio diesel sign on the pump. I fueled anyway not figuring that I would have a problem. I shouldn't have fueled there. The 2 tanks prior to fueling there were over 8 and after I fueled in IL I fueled up in WI and my fuel mileage dropped down to 6.8.

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Although there is no mandate, many truck stops carry B5 and B20 because of the tax incentives. Love's, FS, Shell, Marathon, Petro and TA carry soy biodiesel, while Pilot and Flying J carry a biomass blend.

The soy blend is much better, cleans out the fuel system, and generally is a better fuel than the biomass blend.

The pre-tax price is usually 38 cents lower than the price at the pump, simply because of the state's fuel tax rate.

I too have seen a loss in fuel economy from the bio in Texas, but it seems Illinois' bio is much better quality.

If you are going to fuel in Illinois, pay attention to the sign at the pump to make sure of what fuel you are getting, as some stations carry straight ULSD, Pure Biodiesel, and Bio-blend B5-B20.

And, I buy LOTS of fuel in Illinois.

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I buy 90% to 95% of my fuel in IL and get great mpg's. I never fuel at a Pilot or any big fuel stops so I don't know what the difference there would be, but for the people that never run bio or only run it on a rare occasion I have heard it will drop your mileage for the first few tanks while it is striping all the varnish off the inside of the tanks, at the same time plugging a filter or two. I run 50,000 miles on my fuel filters with no problems, but I've been running IL bio for years.

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Matt, Do you think if you tried some non-biodiesel you might get even better mpgs than you are now?

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I have tried, I figure I loss 1-2 tenths maybe, I get a jump on the first 2 tanks then it goes right back to the average. But it is still cheaper with IL bio at a 2 tenths loss. Todays prices (5-2-12) without state tax in my lane, Hixton WI $3.60, Tuscola IL $3.48, Leesburg FL $3.57. I get 7.3 mpg now with IL fuel, thats $.4767 per mile, if I got 7.5 on FL fuel today would be a wash of $.4760 per mile. That price is closer today then most days. The other fact that if I fuel in Southern IL I only fuel twice a week, if started buying WI and FL I would have to stop a third time. All the other states are about 10 to 20 cents higher in price so no need to look at them.

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I notice about a full 1 mpg , this was only one week sample got about 200 gals in IL and next fill up I notice it.I try my best to stay away from any biodiesel.NC & VA are both standard ultra low so with 300 gal tanks i can do strategic fuel purchasing.

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My N-14 525 W900 loves the bio-diesel got 6.82 mpg 968 miles.

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N14 here too and with the Illinois bio my mpg was always good. I see a loss though from the bio in Texas.

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I buy regularly in Illinois since the actual fuel price without IFTA is usually cheaper and I get an average of over 30 cents off the cash pump price. I also fuel in Iowa frequently, where bio is the norm just about everywhere also. I have been using bio for almost 5 years steady and mpg has been in the high 6 to low 7 mpg range that whole time. When I started using bio, I didn't notice any real mpg drop. Maybe a tenth or two if any.

There is no MANDATE to sell bio in Illinois or Iowa. There are tax credits in place for doing so, and that is why fuel stops are taking advantage of that and selling bio. Now MN has come up with a state mandate, and some others are also. But that is due to the Fed EPA wanting everyone to use bio blends. Gotta keep those feds happy.

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for those who just read papers it would seem you would get worse fuel milage because the energy content is lower,but for some reason you usaully get better fuel milage,i have been running it for the last 7 years,it used to be hard to find,but keep fuel records an i do better with bio,i have run blends up to 20 percent,an then you doget some fryer smell but truck ran good on it,i have run it in a cat,a detroit,an now in a volvo d12 motor,all with good results

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Most folks confuse the worse fuel mileage with ethanol compared to biodiesel. They just read "biofuels" and couldn't tell anyone the difference if they tried. I have used biodiesel in various blends for over 6 years with no negative effects. Occasionally, there is a substandard batch that makes it into the system. If the bio is brownish instead of honey colored, then get ready for a filter change.

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I fuel twice a week - beginning of week in Wisconsin and end of week in Illinois. I get my best fuel economy with fuel from Illinois - usually purchased @ Flying J in Alorton, IL. When in Wisconsin, I'll fill up at either T/A in Madison, Love's in Tomah or Pilot in Mauston. I do not see a much of a radical difference in fuel economy from any fill-up in Wisconsin. I average in the low 6's as I do a lot of P&D daily.

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i have noticed a big drop when i run yellow diesel. i have noticed diesel comes in three colors clear, green and yellow. i get a BIG drop from yellow fuel, good fuel in monee at petro

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Loves in Williamsville Il is Bio-mas

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Yes, i buy lots of IL fuel. Mostly TA Bloomington. I read a report a while back stating that 100% biodiesel had 10% less energy in it than 100% petrol diesel. So B10 blend would theoreticaly be 1% less efficient. Too small to accurately measure on the basis of energy content alone. Other factors may contribute to (in)efficiency like ECM perameters and engine components being exposed to the different chemical makeup of biodiesel blends.

It would be interesting to see the results of a 30 day comparison test between Rochelle, IL Petro's two offered fuels, ULSD and their bio-blend. The only problem is that they charge something like 0.20 extra for the 100% petrol ULSD? And my biggest company discounts are TA & Loves.

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i buy fuel in illinois mostly at t/a in russell because of price,when i'm heading south#2 bio.i get good mileage because of #2,going north i try buying#1.forget about mileage running #1 no energy,but prevents freeze up.no problem in il.

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I buy over 60% of my fuel in Illinous, the winter blend has dropped me down maybe 7/10ths. but during the the summer I was getting +7 mpg in an Acert C15

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i always fuel in il during the summer-same place with b-5 to b-20- and don't see any noticeable difference in fuel mileage. but during the winter i quit fueling there. it is even worse compared to straight diesel that is winterized. i figured it might be the winterization additive used for biodiesel because i once bought a bunch of ppf biodiesel antigel on sale very cheap and it also worked in #2 diesel. that stuff caused a big mpg drop.

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Bio-Diesel gel-up winter time And costs frequent filter change!

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