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To buy or not to buy? 2010 Freightliner Cascadia

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2010 Cascadia sleeper

550,000 miles

Detroit DD15

10 speed auto

DPF

King pins replacement recently

Clutch work recently

Non-service agreement lease

Can't see any major issues but haven't checked VIN or oil yet because I'm leaning towards no, mostly concerned with emissions stuff

Yes, I have done some research on the new emissions stuff and this one should be a 09 engine, pre DEF. I have heard mixed results and some say having DPF + DEF is better than DPF alone. I'm not sure because some say it just depends on the engine and model year.

Now, if you're wondering why I'm considering the truck its because of the price and the fact I wouldn't be taking on a loan for this, I'd take over the lease with option to buy. The guy cannot make the payments because he is not physically able to work right now. I'd be getting about a $8,000-9,000 discount if bought at lease end. According to commercialtrucktrader the average price is $59,000 for similar miles and model year. A rough estimate omitting the well-specd trucks listed on there, I'd say the average price is $53-54k. So yeah I'd be paying about $45k with the purchase, he's already paid about 1/3 of the total lease interest, wouldn't have the loan on the company's balance sheet/books or credit report which is appealing because we are trying to finance and lease several more trucks either through the bank or lenders/lessors.

I've already told the guy I probably won't do it but I'd appreciate some final opinions. And if my analysis is way off somewhere, I'd love to be corrected. Thanks folks.

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When I give advice on trucks like these, I have to agree 100% with Kevin and his advice. I would never recommend buying an emissions truck. So that means I would only buy 2003 and older. The odds are that this truck will have emission related problems that will cost you big money, down time, and decreased fuel economy. No one knows how to fix these trucks and so many of these trucks end up like a horror movie. I've even seen trucks like these put people out of business. If things start going wrong on this truck it would be nothing to drop 15K-20K into it and maybe still not have your problems solved. Some people have emission trucks and never have a problem. These people are far and few between. In my opinion your taking a big gamble with this truck. With a 45k budget you could get an older pre emission truck. You can find these in the 12K-20K range and you would still have 33k-25K left over to put towards maintenance and upgrades. I run two trucks, a 1999 freightliner century and a 2003 freightliner Columbia and my maintenance cost is at $0.11 per mile and my mpg is at 8.8mpg. I can almost promise you that your not going to get that good of numbers out of this truck. I wouldn't buy it.

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Buy a new glider. Fitzgerald builds Freightliner, Peterbilt and Kenworth models with 1998 emissions Detroit S60 engines. There are other builders too. I own one Fitzgerald and two from Harrison Truck Center. I would not go any other route. Check my other answers for more in-depth information.

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I've heard Kevin say he's "warming up" to emissions trucks since Pittsburgh Power (& others) are finally figuring out how to keep them "running right". But I've also heard him say to stay away from "older" emissions trucks. So for a DD15 what would the cut off be? 2010? 2011? & newer?

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