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Programs Similar to Landstar or Schneider Choice?

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Does anyone know of any other 'Choose your own Freight/ Be your own Dispatcher' Programs that Carriers other than Landstar and Schneider National are offering?

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Brian Hunter
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I am leased to Mercer. You can choose your own loads and or have your coordinator find them for you. It is a first in first out policy, eliminating the need for the owner/agent relationship (in theory).

Like the brizatakool my YTD on all miles is 1.48 and 40% and we are not even busy yet. Last year I made 1.86 on ALL miles, that included buying the truck in FL bob tailing to OH and then to KY for orientation.

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I am considering leasing to Mercer. Landstar would not take me because they will not let me do any moonlighting (aka Hauling Grain on our Farm in the Fall, Driving Church Bus, Etc.- which I find hard to believe that owners who are already leased to Landstar obey this restriction). I am liking what I am seeing so far...

Geoff Summerville,

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I've not heard of any other Carrier's offering this. When I was with USX there were some rumors they were going to be coming out with a system like that but I don't think it was even close to being realized yet.

I'm with Schneider National now and love it. I'd highly recommend them to anyone who asked. I've never ran for Landstar but to me they seem more like running your own authority in that you have to form relationships with agents, etc. While that's not a bad thing, for a first time O/O like myself, it's nice to not have to worry about that part of it.

If I were to leave SNI, which I'm doing well here, Landstar would be my next choice. I don't see myself leaving though. Last month I made $1.39 on all miles driven and I'm typically keeping about 40% of my revenue. SNI and Landstar were my only two choices when considering leaving USX. I chose SNI because of the lease program, which I know Kevin isn't a fan of but I like it a lot. A lot of support from SNI/SFI and I'm doing well for myself, which is all that matters to me.

From what I heard over the weekend from a few of the Landstar guys helping out Brian, I'm doing about as well as they are in revenue. Not sure what their expenses are from Landstar but my fixed costs excluding truck payment are not very high and we have a very competitive fuel discount program from what I've researched.

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I would just like to add that with SNI currently you have to be based in midwest. To get on Choice were you work of the load board. If you are the west you will have to go with a mileage lease. I am out of portland and I am fighting that battle right now. You just want to check if your state is allowed on the choice board. If that changes I will post.

I have heard this from more than just a few drivers who live out west.

Geoff Summerville,

they now have a western choice baord!!!!!

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i work for a small company in canada.not partial.schneider national seems to be quite progressive these days,unlike they used to be,i get passed by brokers all the time(not governed) seems like a lot of freedom.an opinion from outside only

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landstar has always given freedom,surprising is schneider doing the same thing now.not quite the same freedom as landstar

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i drive for landstar and you do not have to make relations with the agents, i been driving for landstar for about 3.5 yrs. now and i will not go anywere, we get load alerts does schneider have this? also with landstar i am on the road for about 3mo. and go home for about 1.5-2mo does sn. let you do this? i run like this because i choose to. i called sn. b4 calling landstar they told me i could not do this with them. told me i could not stay home for that length of time, i work the load board and only do 25000lb or less cross country.

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Landstar is not like any other..Schneider has company trucks and a selected load board. If you dont need a baby sitter Landstar is the place.

If you want to play owner or are buying a job Schneider is the place.

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CRST Malone - it's flatbed not box if it makes you any difference. With Landstar, unlike Schneider, there's more potential because you can negotiate the rate, fuel surcharge etc.

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I just became an i.c. with SNI. They told me the choice option is coming to the west coast in the next month or two.. I really hope so cause I am based out of Fontana, CA. This is my first week in my truck, and all I have done is drive from Green bay, WI to Mississippi...and back...some small runs mixed in. All is good, but I would like to get back to the west coast sometime next week or so.

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I just talked to andrea in I.C Recruiting choice is open to west coast drivers know. For current system IC. Contact your ICA and he should be able ot give you the information. If not call IC recruiting. I am working on getting transferred now I have to go home and get my Hazmat endorsment even thought I will not take a hazmat load. I am getting alot of push back from my ica he doesn't want me off his board. In a month or 2 it is going to go public to new drivers coming into the program from outside SCNN

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Otis Olinger
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JB Hunt has jumped on the bandwagon.

Load Visibility Plan:

62% of the gross load revenue, paid on all loaded miles

100% pass-through of shipper's fuel surcharge

Ability to view available loads and plan your next move

Qualcomm, maintenance, fuel and required escrow deducted weekly

Requires laptop with WiFi/Internet capabilities

Sorry no more info, I don't drive for them.

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James Thomas
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Well I'm lease on with MaG Carriers llc. Running my business under their numbers. Similar to land star. Completely doing your own booking/negotiation or contract freight(non hazard).

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I checked with Sammons out of Massoula Mt. I think they are honest and up front. Some drivers told me I could get home weekly or every other week but recruiting told me I'd probably have to stay out 3plus weeks to make it work, I wasn't in a position to do commit. Son is a senior this year.

After 27 years out here I'm not a fan of companies with more then 40 trucks. That being said, I believe Sammons is about as good as you'll get with a big co. I honestly couldn't find any driver that had anything negitive to say about them. They have a facebook account, I highly recommend visiting it. Research, reseach, reseach.

That's my two cents..

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Geoff Summerville transport LLC.

Cheapest , quickest , easiest , most profitable , best carrier you could pull for.

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sammons trucking all open deck. i moonlighted with landstar

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Linn Prudhomme
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Presently and for the last 5 years I have been running under my own authority, prior to that I ran NOT FOR HIRE hauling my own product. I use the OOiDA load board when I'm out of my regular lanes or if my regular shippers/brokers don't have something. I also get large carriers and brokers like AllenLund that send out their own loads to my email. Burleson is pretty good on some lanes too.

I also use the Landstarbroker.com board, in the last month I had a run with bad loads with two agents out of Texas. Detention has not been paid up to now and it was over 40 days ago. Customer service called them and called me back and said when or if they get detention I will get mine. That wasn't the deal I signed onto, and on one load the product to be hauled was ms-represented as potting soil, turned out it was 10,000 potted plants that was loaded by hand in my trailer. Four and half hours on both ends of that load, and the agent would not reply to emails or phone calls.

The Blue Beacon truck wash got a kick out of the potting soil that they left in my trailer.

I am all but finished with the setup with Landstar, drug screen and truck inspection left to do....don't know if I will go any further. If I wanted to push it I could have been leased to Landstar by now. I guess it is the EOBR/Quaalcom that is the biggest hindrance in my mind right now. Some say it does not matter, but not one Landstar driver that does not have one, is breaking down the door to get one either.

Every time I see a Landstar driver I ask if they are willing to share their experience, most are very helpful and friendly. There is a few bad mannered ones out there, I just say thanks and move on.

The most resounding comment is you need to have a inside with agents, some of the guys I talked to say they may leave because of where they are based out of. On the broker loadboard I get up to 2.00/mile or better on 90% of those loads and never less that 1.55/mile.

One guy did let me listen to the recorded alert, that i thought was a good feature. Some drivers say there is a seniority thing going on. I read the posts in the landstar drivers discussion group, it seems to be "a closed campy club" just reading between the lines. I guess it is easy to talk big money when you are in the "cat bird" seat.

not really seniority but the old drivers know the old agents (that's the guys with good freight) well and don't need to get on the board very often for loads. i wouldn't sign with ls now because of the eobr.

Jerzy Zaleski,

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Schneider Choice is an AWESOME program...but it has it's drawbacks. There is a huge trailer shortage. If you get to a receiver to drop and they don't have an empty, it can get brutal. The upside is lots of freedom, and the ability to learn the system and find stuff close to home, to stay close to home.

There have been a lot of loads cancelling lately as well, but agiain...where are you going to get the freedom?

I average over $1.40 for all miles (I am at $1.44 a mile for all loads since I started at SNI)

The benefits far outweigh the negatives with this program. I talked to several people who went to Landstar, and are now at SNI because at Landstar you have to call the agent/broker to book the load...at SNI...if you want it, and it's available...click on it and its yours. It's that simple.

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Admiral Merchants

Agent based and you can pull shipper or broker freight.

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Serge Lozovskiy
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Landstar is the way. There is no other company like it. I've been with them for over 3 years

And love it. I run for 3 months then take a 2-3 weeks vacation run local for about 3-4 days a week and home every day. Still gross over 180K/year, AFTER!!! LS takes 35%.

Subtract fuel , tolls, etc. Still plenty $$ left.

But best of all you choose where, when and how much you want to go for.

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